Lotro-Wiki.com:Mordor

Welcome to the Mordor project page. The goal of this page is to create an overview of what needs doing on Mordor and to coordinate our efforts.

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General Mordor

• Main contributors: Magill, Ravanel and Rogue4ever

As with every expansion, Mordor does some things differently than before, calling upon our creativity to present everything on the wiki in a comprehensible manner. Magill summed up various general issues as follows:

• Mordor content is only available to those who purchased the expansion. Players that did not buy Mordor can pass through the gate after completing Volume IV of the epic, but no quests will be available. Players have been known to enter Mordor without having done the epic via summon, port or Mysterious Door decoration.

• The Epic does not continue in Mordor. After the Battle of the Black Gate, you go back to Ithilien and await some future update for the next chapter in the Epic. Will it be next weekend (9 February 2018) when Update 22 goes up on Bullroarer -- we will have to wait till Tyber posts the release notes.

• New mechanics with Mordor: the Allegiance System (see Quests), Motes of Enchantment (see Items) and the Light of Eärendil and Shadow of Mordor mechanic (see Items).

Additional changes with Update 23

• With Update 23, Ash of Enchantment have been renamed to Motes of Enchantment.
• With Update 22, Ashes of Gorgoroth have been renamed to Ash of Enchantment.
• With Update 22 the Allegiance hall for Dwarves (Erebor) is now accessible as part of the Strongholds of the North Area: Eryn Lasgalen

One can enter or leave Erebor from the Dale-lands, independent of Allegiance.

• The Category:The Road to Erebor Instances - The Bells of Dale and Flight to the Lonely Mountain appear to be integrated into the Strongholds of the North

These have apparently been physically integrated (starting points, etc.) but the content of the instances has not been revised to integrate with the new story lines.)

• No statement (that I have heard) has yet been made, but it appears the Update 22 will NOT require the purchase of the Mordor expansion, but does provide similar high level (aka end-game) materials (gear), but not raids and instances.

To do

• Done: Double check if players that have completed the epic can or cannot pass through the Black Gate into Mordor when not owning the expansion. Answer: regardless of whether the expansion is owned or not, as long as the epic is completed, anyone can enter Mordor through the Black Gate. Source: kinnie that farmed landscape mobs in Mordor for months without having bought the expansion. -- Ravanel
• Check if the above information is present on the wiki on the right spots. -- Ravanel
• Done: Rename The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor to Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor (conform expansion page standard) --Ravanel (talk) 20:10, 21 October 2018 (UTC) (this decision was reveresed by Ravenel in 2018 Noddi (talk) 10:57, 16 May 2021 (UTC))
• Rewrite The Lord of the Rings Online: Mordor conform general expansion page layout. See User:Ravanel/Sandbox6. --Ravanel (talk) 00:07, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
• Done: Change Gorgoroth into a redirect page that points to The Plateau of Gorgoroth (see Lotro-Wiki.com talk:Mordor#Location_types). -- Magill
• Rewrite articles that are purely bullet points into articles.
• Done: Removed (Faction) from the article name of Conquest of Gorgoroth (Faction) and removed articles from :Category:Conquest of Gorgoroth (Faction); replaced with Conquest of Gorgoroth and Category:Conquest of Gorgoroth. Rogue (talk) 22:33, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
• Investigate other instances of (Faction), (Deed), and (Title) and related pages is justified. If not, rename the page and the many pages (deeds, quests etc) linking to it. Might be bot work.
• Update the categorization of Mordor pages to be in line with how categorization is done on the rest of the wiki. E.g. images go in an image-specific category; information goes into articles, not directly into categories etc. -- Magill, Ravanel and Rogue4ever

• See Lotro-Wiki.com talk:Mordor#Mordor_categorization for discussion and developments
• Suggested setup according to landscape categorization rules: User:Rogue4ever/Mordor Categorization by Rogue4ever
• Naming guideline: category spelling should be identical to in-game spelling whenever possible. For location pages the main map is leading.
• Current layout:

The Plateau of Gorgoroth

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Audio Journals

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Creatures

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Deeds

Doomfold Crafting

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Locations

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Maps

Mordor Items

The Plateau of Gorgoroth NPC Images

The Plateau of Gorgoroth NPCs

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Quests

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Reputation Factions

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Location Images

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Titles

The Plateau of Gorgoroth

World / locations

• Main contributors: Magill, Rogue4ever, matthew.zellmer
• The first 3 areas of Mordor - Udûn, Dor Amarth and Lhingris - are pretty well documented.
• After discussions with our grandmasters of geography and viewing previous Land categories, Rogue4ever has restructured our Locations:

• Any reference to Mordor as a Location: Land, Region, Area, Landmark, Interior, Instance should always refer to geography. See User:Rogue4ever/Mordor Categorization for a layout.
• So far Rogue4ever has re-categorized Region, Areas, Landmarks, Settlements, and Instances:

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Locations

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Areas

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Instances

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Interiors

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Settlements

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Dungeons

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Landmarks

Note: I have marked both Gondor and Mordor talk pages with: == Gondor Regions == Let it be known that March of the King and The Wastes are considered part of Gondor from this day forth. They will not be included as regions within Mordor. Thank you. Rogue (talk) 16:58, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

To do

• Adding missing landmarks; see Template:The Plateau of Gorgoroth.
• Double check whether all location articles use the same layout and fix where necessary.
• Update Milestone with the Mordor locations.

Questions

• What's the difference between Category: Mordor Landmarks and Category: Plateau of Gorgoroth Landmarks? Should they be merged? If not, a description on each category page should be added explaining its use.
  • Rogue4ever created Category:The Plateau of Gorgoroth Landmarks for all current landmarks as there are no other regions in Mordor and moved all currently made pages to it.

• Investigating the use of navigation boxes. Currently, every location page has 4:

• Template:Mordor (2 navigation boxes) - Land templates - One refers to Mordor without purchase of the Expansion and the other refers to Mordor ONLY as the Expansion
• Template: The Plateau of Gorgoroth - Region Template
• Template: Udûn - Area template

Some of the information within the boxes overlaps. We should consider to merge some of these boxes to create a clearer overview. There might also be better wording possible for "Mordor - not the expansion" and "Mordor - the expansion".

Rogue4ever has fixed the navigation boxes:

• Area pages should have region template, land template (used Angmar as sample).
• Landmark pages should have area template and region template (used landmarks in Angmar as sample).
• Though there was some contention for March of the King and The Wastes, Rogue4ever has moved those links over to the Gondor Navigation Template.
• looks like there was a lot of contention since they were moved back to the Mordor Navigation Template.
  • I am thinking it will be fine to classify March of the King Region in both Gondor and Mordor Nav Templates and Categories since it kind of lives in both.
  • but clearly The Wastes should live in the Mordor Navigation and Categorization. Matthew.zellmer (talk) 18:55, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
• Is Nargroth considered a landmark or an area? Matthew.zellmer (talk) 18:55, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Quests

• Main contributors: Elinnea, Onewingedangel73106, Tharondir
• Mordor institutes "The Black Book of Mordor" -- which is (almost?) completely documented on the wiki. The Black Book replaces the Epic and consists of several story lines with post Sauron bosses vying for control.
• A new mechanic was introduced with Mordor: the Allegiance System.
• All instance quests are missing.

To Do

• Double check if the Black Book of Mordor is completely available on the wiki.
  • Add the missing class-dependent quests.
• Check if all landscape quests are present; if not, add them.
  • Working on this slowly, as I go through. -- Elinnea (talk) 18:03, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Adding fires of Orodruin quests. -- Onewingedangel73106
• Add missing allegiance quests. -- Tharondir
• Add all instance quests.

NPCs

• Main contributor: Elinnea, Rogue4ever
• All NPCs from the High Elf intro have been added.
• Other NPCs have been added, but the list is probably not complete.
• See Category: The Plateau of Gorgoroth NPCs.

To Do

• Check which NPCs are missing and add them. -- Elinnea (talk) 18:03, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
• Take images of NPCs that need them (Category:Udûn NPCs needing an image)

Creatures

• Rogue4ever created a new Creatures by Location category for The Plateau of Gorgoroth Creatures:

The Plateau of Gorgoroth Creatures

To Do

• Add missing landscape creatures.
• Add missing scourges.
• Add general page called Scourges, explaining what they are.

Note that the scources are related to the Alliance dailies.

There is a set of things you need to accomplish to unlock the Allegiance dailies -- the Sourges unlock before that or not.

Technically, the Scourge quests are unlocked as part of the Allegiance Dailies: Allegiance_System#Accessing_Daily_Allegiance_Quests

Then they are available as: Quest:Weekly_Conquest:_Scourges

However, that is only in the context of the Allegiance system -- they roam the landscape as mobs, but you don't get any goodies for killing them, just "normal stuff."

The individual Landscape Scourge quests (auto bestowed) show up as: Category:Mordor: Scourges of Gorgoroth Quests

As I recall, they are all Arch-nemesis and with 1.5+ million morale. Several of them do have individual Creature pages, however, they are all blocked from the LM's Power of Knowledge.

• Include relevant deeds, rewards and quests.
• Link to Roving Threats and vise versa (because of similarities)

• Add missing hidden threats.
• Add all instance creatures.
• Take pictures of creatures.

Items

• Mordor gear is characterized by four changes:

• Items have a Light of Eärendil bonus. This stat mitigates the Shadow of Mordor mechanic present on characters within the borders of Mordor (including in instances).
• Some items found in Mordor can be destroyed by using a Flame of Ancalamír item to harvest Motes of Enchantment.
• Gorgoroth Steel-bound lockboxes were introduced as a source of gear and ash; the latter can be bartered for best-in-slot gear.
• Due to changes in the rating to percentage formulae, stat scaling by level was increased dramatically. As a result, level 115 gear is so powerful that level 105 gear is obsolete stat wise at level cap. Any gear obtained outside of Mordor is NOT comparable with Mordor level 106 and above gear. (There is no level 105 Mordor gear.)

• See Category:Mordor Items.
• There is a comparison page for medium armour ash barter sets: Comparison of Hunter and Beorning Medium Armour Sets - level 115

To do

• Write a really short overview of general item changes with Mordor (as described above), linking to the appropriate pages that explain these in-depth.

Note that "Item Level" is more significant now with Mordor gear than Player Level. See the comparison page above for an example of two item levels for players level 115.

• All Mordor barter NPCs should be checked and the missing items they barter added to the wiki.
• Mordor world drops should be checked and added where necessary.
• Mordor lootbox drops should be checked and added where necessary.
• Mordor quest rewards should be checked and added where necessary.
• Armour comparison pages should be added for other armour types. Coordinate with Magill.

Ash of Gorgoroth / Enchantment

• With Update 23, Ash of Enchantment have been renamed to Motes of Enchantment.

Deeds / titles

• Main contributors: Magill (preparations), Dolenaglar (adding deeds) and Ravanel (adding deeds and fixing deed names).
• All Mordor deeds are present on the wiki. The bulk of the work has been done by Magill and Dolenaglar. Ravanel has added all instance deeds and renamed a large number of deed pages that incorrectly had "(Deed)" in their name.
• Information from categories has been brought together in the article The Plateau of Gorgoroth Deeds by Ravanel.
• See Category:The Plateau of Gorgoroth Deeds and Category:The Plateau of Gorgoroth Instance Deeds

To do

• Add missing titles. --Ravanel (talk) 00:30, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
• Gorgoroth Deed and The Plateau of Gorgoroth Instance Deed integration:
  • Create an overview table of the instance deeds. --Ravanel (talk) 14:07, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Make sure the normal deed and the instance deed pages link to each other. --Ravanel (talk) 14:07, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
• Add the lore/flavor text for existing deeds. --Dolenaglar (talk) 02:27, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
• Location pages need to be updated with relevant deeds (not all deeds in the entire region, but the ones that are actually advanced there). --Ravanel (talk) 15:32, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Lore

• (Almost) all lore pages are vacant.
• The new lore mechanic Audio Journals is completely documented. Decoration Items links to Audio Journals.

To Do

• Add pages for missing lore: Manthríf, King Váskmun Greytooth/Váskmun Greytooth (one of them a redirect, see also NPCs), Order of the Eye, Mordath, Firehorns/Firehorn dwarves and many more.

Instances

• A name for the instance cluster was missing in SSG PR, but judging by the deed log under Instances, and looking at previous wiki naming conventions, "The Plateau of Gorgoroth Instances" is correct.
• See Category:The Plateau of Gorgoroth Instances
• The 3-man and 6-man instance pages are missing.
• The raid article The Abyss of Mordath is lacking pictures, lore, coordinates, quests, mobs, strategy and loot.

To do

• Create pages for the 3- and 6-man instance and add them to Category:The Plateau of Gorgoroth Instances. -- Done. Neum (talk)
• Write content for instance pages.
• Add missing sections for the Abyss of Mordath raid article (pictures, lore, coordinates, quests, mobs, strategy and loot).
• Create page The Plateau of Gorgoroth Instances that gives an overview of existing instances and transclude this page into Category:The Plateau of Gorgoroth Instances
• Add the Plateau of Gorgoroth Instances to the article World Instance and (for the raid) Raids. -- Done. Neum (talk)

Crafting

• Main contributor: Neum
• Main objective: Update all recipe indices and add missing recipes and items for the Doomfold crafting tier.
• Crafting has changed. Instead of standard and critical crafting successes being two separate items, now they are the same item but with different item levels.
• Future work: It might be possible to have an item stat table template, e.g.,

  {{Item stat table|326|335|Agility2|Vitality3|Finesse|Physical Mastery2}}

  • This standardizes the presentation of the tables and could infer stats for item levels we have not yet verified in game.
  • Should also handle damage, dps, armour, and worth as well

To do

• Done. Update all doomfold recipe indices. Neum (talk)
• Done. Add missing recipe pages. Neum (talk)
• Done. Add missing item pages. Neum (talk)
• Verify all doomfold recipe indices
• Verify and unify formats for recipe pages (especially allegiance guild recipes).
• Verify and unify formats for item pages
• Update boilerplates and relevant documentation
  • Example recipe item index: Woodworker Doomfold Recipe Index#Melee Weapons (item level 333 / crit 335)
    • Main change: instead of showing standard output and critical in italics, display only one item. Stats are shown on the item page.
  • Example item page with multiple item levels: Item:Weighted Bludgeon of the Pathfinder's Artifice
    • Variable stats are marked as '...' in the tooltip; stat table in body

Profession	Index	Recipes	Items
Cook	✓	✓	✓
Farmer	✓	✓	✓
Forester / Forester Recipe Index	✓	✓	✓
Jeweller	✓	✓	✓
Metalsmith	✓	✓	✓
Prospector / Prospector Recipe Index	✓	✓	✓
Scholar	✓	✓	✓
Tailor	✓	✓	✓
Weaponsmith	✓	✓	✓
Woodworker	✓	✓	✓

✓ = updated

✓✓ = verified