User talk:Matthew.zellmer

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Nadhin items

Item:Light Nadhin Hood
Item:Light Nadhin Robe
Item:Light Nadhin Gauntlets

must not been deleted because those are the official names in the Database and won't appear in Google and in LID. --Castorix (talk) 07:09, 10 August 2016 (UTC) Discussion continues on talk

Thanks for all your contributions

Long overdue, but thanks for all your hard work! --Lotroadmin (talk) 04:57, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

New Discord server

Hey Matthew.zellmer - just a heads up that we have a new Discord server that you may want to join. It's for admins, editors, and users of Lotro-Wiki to chat and discuss topics relating to the Wiki. --Gaerlin (talk) 16:47, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Template:Talath Úrui

I would prefer to keep the Nargroth landmarks only on Template:Nargroth since Nargroth is its own area, and Talath Úrui already has a lot of landmarks. But I don't want to just undo your edit without discussing it with you first. Gnagerwine (talk) 16:09, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for discussing this. I review all your hard work on this wiki and want to encourage you to keep it up. I understand you want to keep the template local to Nargroth. It wasnt on the main Nargroth page so I added it. But the real problem I saw was the landmarks inside Nargroth not being listed anywhere on the region pages. Lets discuss the Nargroth landmarks inclusion onto the Talath Úrui template. LOTRO regions, areas and landmarks can be frustrating for me and don't always match up to their counterparts on this wiki. Nargroth is confusing, its currently marked as an area and as a Landmark. I also marked it as a public dungeon, since you have to go thru one of those gate doors to get inside.
Lets see ... while Nargroth does exhibit several aspects of an area (like having landmarks) its clearly inside of Talath Úrui, so I will respectfully push back on categorizing it as an area. Here are my proofs. Nargroth is marked as a landmark on the Template:Talath Úrui. Nargroth is not labeled as an area on the region page The_Plateau_of_Gorgoroth, nor is it included in the list of Area#The_Plateau_of_Gorgoroth in the main area pages. There is not a single quest that refers to Nargroth as an area. Note Quest:Lost Lore of Gorgoroth: Talath Úrui (which leans towards Talath Úrui as the area), Quest:Under the Fires of Orodruin and Quest:Instance: Borangos The Horror are all categorized inside Category:Mordor: Talath Úrui Quests. To be fair, we need to get in here and finish filling out these missing quests. Moving on, all of the NPCs inside Nargroth are categorized inside Category:Talath Úrui NPCs The only related deed is categorized inside the Category:Talath Úrui Deeds. All that said, if you want to make Nargroth an area you will need to add it and categorize it in all these places as an area and elevate its status. Here is an example of this same trouble, Talk:The Wastes from last year. Here is the current working project page for us You should add your name to the list!
Matthew.zellmer (talk) 18:48, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Oh the interior of Nargroth is definitely an area, but the entrance is a landmark (also called Nargroth) in Talath Úrui and it's kind of part of Talath Úrui... like a sub-area. The quests are all in the Talath Úrui group. I noticed just recently that region page needs updating. I can work on that, and add them to the area page. Kâm Lagúrz, the Brokencleft and the Mokál Rukh are (sub) areas of their own inside of Lhingris and Agarnaith. Oh and also Cirith Gorgor between Udûn and the Wastes. Gnagerwine (talk) 02:15, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Keep in mind this wiki has a specific setup for locations and what goes in what. Please review Boilerplate:Location_Areas. Also you might want to post an update to User talk:Rogue4ever since he has been working since the beginning and has made a number changes that most editors follow. All the best. Matthew.zellmer (talk) 18:58, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, I double checked the boilerplate. A lot of areas don't have their own map but in either case Nargroth certainly does. Regarding caves like Lair of the Gloom-lord, what infobox should I use for the interior of the cave, if not the interiors infobox? Gnagerwine (talk) 02:27, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
You make a good point. I ask myself that often. Generally speaking, we use the Landmark infobox template. I guess because the only part of of the location that makes it any different from other camps full of baddies, is that its hard to find due to the door or gate mechanics. Sometimes these door mechanics dont go to a building interior or cave, just to a new section of the map. If its also a dungeon full of baddies, then add [[:Category:Public Dungeons]] at the bottom of the page. If its a friendly inviting interior like a tavern or castle or bank then use the interior infobox template. Maybe we should make a dungeon interior infobox template. But for now. Matthew.zellmer (talk) 18:50, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure "dungeons" are technically the same as "interiors" but if we don't want to make them the same, let's have a separate infobox for each. Gnagerwine (talk) 02:52, 22 September 2018 (UTC)