User talk:Sucamarto

Thanks for all your edits --Lotroadmin (talk) 03:22, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks again for your continued edits, far overdue for Director role --Lotroadmin (talk) 01:00, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Creating new items

I noticed that you have created a number of new items. Let me give you a few "how to" pointers.

• Please use the "Create Article - New Item" entry from the left margin of a page to create new item entries. Do NOT simply cut and paste from other pages unless you pay strict attention to all of the changes that need to be made:

Examples: Item: Pauldrons of the Predator (Level 75) and Item:Pauldrons of the Predator (Level 100).

When created correctly, the ToolTip will appear in the RIGHT side of the page. These two items appeared on the left side because the "Disambigpage" name did NOT match the actual name of the page. This would have been correctly configured had you used the Create Item tool. The "Name" parameter can be modified to eliminate the "(level 75)" for correct display.

By not using the Create Item Tool, you neglected to include the "| item_level =" parameter for each item - which is how they are now distinguished.

Similarly if you examine the "Boilerplate" Item Entry on the Help page, you will note that there should be an entry on the page "=== Details ===" which describes WHERE this particular Item is found.

I suspect that you were modifying OLD armour set information -- as all armour-sets today have bonuses only for 2 and 4 items. The 3 and 5 Item bonuses were (or should have been) eliminated back in about Update 10, I forget when Turbine announced the change. The WIKI simply does not have enough editors to keep things absolutely current and we depend upon individual such as yourself to "catch" such changes and update the Wiki accordingly. The page Arms of the Predator - 75 needs to be updated accordingly. (It hasn't been updated since I created it in 2012.)

* I have fixed the Disambigpage name problem.

• The pages:

• Spyhill
• Item: Cabedail
• Item: Barannir
• Item: Astaldo
• Item: Ethiram
• Item: Nedhranc
• Item: Longthol

Are all components in the Armour Set Spyhill.

See: Help:Item Sets and Create new item set for details on how to create the set item.

And then the individual Items are created using the Create new item tool.

Using these will create the Tooltips necessary to duplicate the Tooltips found in-game.

If you have any questions do not hesitate to ask.

Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC - talk 04:31, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

I have begun updating the listing for Tongdir - hunter trader in the Moors. Phew... a lot to change and add.

I've continued what you began -- tagging the existing entries with "(Level 75)" so that the sets, which now exist at Level 75, 85, 95 and 100, can be found.

The Arms of the Predator - 75 items and set have now been updated with current information.

Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC - talk 12:15, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

• Item Icons:

Great work with the armour Sets!!! For a new Item, you don't have do upload a new icon for this item. The most icons you can find in Category:Armour Icons. If not, upload it and add it there. Barny (talk) 09:43, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Promotion

• Thanks for your updates to the Lotro-Wiki.com collection of information!

The Wiki is successful because of dedicated fans like yourself.

You have been promoted - see: Ninja.

• Tip: when creating a new page, use the Article Management Tag: {{Stub/Construction|[[User Talk <User-name>]]}}

Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC - talk 16:05, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Tips for New Editors

What is this language we use here? The code we use is called wiki markup. It is not HTML but under the hood the wiki-engine creates HTML from the markup; see Wiki Markup for more information. Lotro-Wiki uses MediaWiki which recognizes wiki-markup, many HTML tags, and CSS. Staying Current In the left-hand column, the link "Recent discussions" will list any recent change to a talk page. Using that link is an easy way to "stay current". An even better way is to chat with other editors and admins. Red links in Preview Mode If a link turns out red it indicates an error, usually a typo or "page not found". Something that should be fixed before saving them page. However, when editing in newly added areas we accept red links for pages expected to new added soon; all red links can be found using a link under "Special Pages" in the left-hand column. Removing "Stub" Tags Some pages have an Article Management Tag, meaning the page needs additional work. When adding the missing information, please remove the tag, which removes the page from e.g. Category:Stubs/Mob or whatever category the page was tagged for. Creature vs. Mob "Mob" is an enemy inside an instance, while "creature" is any other enemy. Kill vs. Defeat At Lotro-Wiki we never say "kill" but always say "defeat". How to Delete a Page? Only Administrators have the ability to delete pages. Instead you can tag a page for deletion by adding {{Delete Page|<reason>}} at the top of the page. However, we prefer to keep old pages around for reference so we use the {{Obsolete}} tag. Similarly, certain information on a page could be useful for future reference. Either hide that info under a collapsed table titled e.g. "obsolete info", or move that info to a section at the bottom of the page, similarly titled, or to a new page with a name indicating the info is old. Chat with other editors for advice. How to Move (Rename) a Page? Only Administrators can move a page, use the {{Move}} tag, and give a reason why.

Tools for Editors

Lotro-Wiki Manual of Style Creating Images and Icons for upload Extended Image Syntax How to use the Article Creation section Naming issues Categorization guidelines Documentation: HTML Color Codes Documentation: Quality - Colors used by LOTRO to designate Item Quality Advanced Editing Links Help -- links to editing information on this Wiki; a direct link to the Help page can be found in the side-menu. Basic Editing Information Advanced Editing I: Definitions and pointers Advanced Editing II: Techniques Technique: How to create Citations Technique: Disambiguation - Other pages with the same name but different content Advanced Editing III: CSS and Tables Documentation: Category Tree Extension on Mediawiki Editing Guidelines Creating Crafting pages Creating Item pages Creating Quest pages Creating Creature pages Creating NPC pages Standard Operating Procedures for Editors Category: Things to do Patrolling Wiki Statistics -- Statistics about the Wiki, page counts and the like Contribution Scores - Statistics about the editing in the past 30 days Projects Projects are also itemized in Help Editor: Information. Major Lotro-Wiki Projects Categorization • Character • Crafting • Creatures • Deeds • Documentation • Effects • Game Guides • Images • Instances • Lore • LOTRO Store • Monster Play • NPCs • Quests • Skirmishes • System Tools • World Expansion projects: Mordor Using Article Management Tags Category:Article Management Tags Category:Stubs

The infamous apostrophe problem

Looks like you encountered the difference between Wall's and Wall's :) The first is the keyboard apostrophe, and the second - Wall& #39;s - contains the HTML apostrophe.

In particular, the disambigpage requires the HTML apostrophe.

The easiest way to solve this problem is to use: | disambigpage = {{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}

Otherwise you need to manually change the single character apostrophe to the HTML string & #39; (with no space after the &).

Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC - talk 16:19, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Same issue again -> https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Item:Bronze_Northman%27s_Mace_%28Level_100%29

Once a page is created how do you introduce either of these fixes?

The easiest way to solve this problem is to use: | disambigpage = {{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}

Otherwise you need to manually change the single character apostrophe to the HTML string & #39; (with no space after the &).

Quite simple actually, just edit the disambigpage entry .. COMPLETELY!  :)

• The "| disambigpage =" entry MUST equal the actual COMPLETE actual page name -- you left off the "(Level 100)" trailer on the page name.

The "name" parameter can be anything. It controls what is displayed in the Tooltip DISPLAY, not where the Tooltip is displayed on its own 'Item:" page.

The "| disambigpage = {{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}" entry is NOT evaluated until you Save or Preview the page. And the "text" of the evaluation is not inserted into the page until AFTER you have saved the update. So after you have saved the page, if you go back and edit it again, you will no longer see the "{{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}" text, but the actual substitution which has taken place. ("subst" is short for substitution.)

Either change can be edited into the page at any time.

Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC - talk 23:49, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Promotion

Thanx for the admin status raise

Thanks for your edits and recent help fighting off the spam. You should have the power to delete the pages vs blanking them. --Lotroadmin (talk) 21:35, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Tables

Don't change tables with "width" lesser than "850px" into "%", they look awfully narrow on 4x3 monitors ("worth" column is especially affected)... I'm forced to use one now, instead of my 32" monitor and now I can see some things I couldn't earlier... Ideal width for 1280x1024 (I consider no one is using smaller resolution than that) for a table to fit in the page is 750px (100%)... 70% doesn't fit with tool-tip ether, try 66%, that's 2/3 of the page... Steppenwolf (talk) 22:38, 26 January 2017 (UTC)Steppenwolf

My mistake, it's 750px that fits the page width... Zoom was at 90%...

Steppenwolf (talk) 00:41, 27 January 2017 (UTC)Steppenwolf

Icon naming

Hi Sucamarto, I've seen you started uploading some of the icons for the new items. I'm not sure if you are present on Discord or if you've seen my proposal to change icon naming on Category_talk:Item_Icons. I believe that would remove a lot of manual effort with negligible drawbacks, but I'd be happy to hear your opinion on it.--Fanchen (talk) 01:10, 5 March 2022 (UTC) Thanks for your response. I have uploaded all Necklace icons with that naming scheme and replaced the necklace icon table. Please let me know if you see any issues!--Fanchen (talk) 05:45, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Patch Allowance

HIDDEN is above Update 37.0.1 - Wednesday September 6, 2023

Scaled items

Hi, I recently noticed that while you add new items (thanks for that) you still use the scaled tables... according to Boilerplate:Item#Level-scaled_Items we dont use them anymore. - Tiberivs (talk) 11:33, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Bird Locations

Hey thanks for adding birds on to the wiki. I did want to note that currently the template is only coded to recognize one location so its putting them into Stub/Location currently if there are two in the parameter. If you have any suggestion for how to make the template accept secondary location please feel free to tinker with the Template as this was first time making a Template I stuck to what I knew with a bit of help from Drono. Eldalleth (talk) 08:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Correction it should work now but needs a "," between not "and" for categorization to work properly. Drono helped fix it for me. Eldalleth (talk) 09:21, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

I rolled back your edit for Goosander because the comma is needed in template to categorize the locations correctly. Please make sure to check things twice as your edit put this page in a Stub. Rogue4ever (talk) 21:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)