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Messages from 2016

Tips

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• Tip: when creating a new page, use the Article Management Tag: {{Construction}}

Signed: Magill (Contribs • Message • Email) on Jul 17 2016, 07:07 UTC

Tips for New Editors

What is this language we use here? The code we use is called wiki markup. It is not HTML but under the hood the wiki-engine creates HTML from the markup; see Wiki Markup for more information. Lotro-Wiki uses MediaWiki which recognizes wiki-markup, many HTML tags, and CSS. Staying Current In the left-hand column, the link "Recent discussions" will list any recent change to a talk page. Using that link is an easy way to "stay current". An even better way is to chat with other editors and admins. Red links in Preview Mode If a link turns out red it indicates an error, usually a typo or "page not found". Something that should be fixed before saving them page. However, when editing in newly added areas we accept red links for pages expected to new added soon; all red links can be found using a link under "Special Pages" in the left-hand column. Removing "Stub" Tags Some pages have an Article Management Tag, meaning the page needs additional work. When adding the missing information, please remove the tag, which removes the page from e.g. Category:Stubs/Mob or whatever category the page was tagged for. Creature vs. Mob "Mob" is an enemy inside an instance, while "creature" is any other enemy. Kill vs. Defeat At Lotro-Wiki we never say "kill" but always say "defeat". How to Delete a Page? Only Administrators have the ability to delete pages. Instead you can tag a page for deletion by adding {{Delete Page|<reason>}} at the top of the page. However, we prefer to keep old pages around for reference so we use the {{Obsolete}} tag. Similarly, certain information on a page could be useful for future reference. Either hide that info under a collapsed table titled e.g. "obsolete info", or move that info to a section at the bottom of the page, similarly titled, or to a new page with a name indicating the info is old. Chat with other editors for advice. How to Move (Rename) a Page? Only Administrators can move a page, use the {{Move}} tag, and give a reason why.

Tools for Editors

Lotro-Wiki Manual of Style Creating Images and Icons for upload Extended Image Syntax How to use the Article Creation section Naming issues Categorization guidelines Documentation: HTML Color Codes Documentation: Quality - Colors used by LOTRO to designate Item Quality Advanced Editing Links Help -- links to editing information on this Wiki; a direct link to the Help page can be found in the side-menu. Basic Editing Information Advanced Editing I: Definitions and pointers Advanced Editing II: Techniques Technique: How to create Citations Technique: Disambiguation - Other pages with the same name but different content Advanced Editing III: CSS and Tables Documentation: Category Tree Extension on Mediawiki Editing Guidelines Creating Crafting pages Creating Item pages Creating Quest pages Creating Creature pages Creating NPC pages Standard Operating Procedures for Editors Category: Things to do Moderation Patrolling Wiki Statistics -- Statistics about the Wiki, page counts and the like Contribution Scores - Statistics about the editing in the past 30 days Projects Projects are also itemized in Help Editor: Information. Major Lotro-Wiki Projects Categorization • Character • Crafting • Creatures • Deeds • Documentation • Effects • Game Guides • Images • Instances • Lore • LOTRO Store • Monster Play • NPCs • Quests • Skirmishes • System Tools • World Expansion projects: Mordor Using Article Management Tags Category:Article Management Tags Category:Stubs

Avoid copying content from DDOwiki

Technical 13

Even though both sites use a free as in beer license, DDO uses CC and this site use FDL. In order to copy content from one site to the other the license also needs to be the same or copied with it.

--Lotroadmin (talk) 07:24, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

• The stuff I have been copying over has been, for the most part, created by me in the first place and licensing is not an issue. Also, the CC license that DDOwiki uses simply says that there must be attribution, of which a link to the source in the edit summary does suffice. Technical 13 (talk) 14:21, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Suggestion

Hey, I just wanted to make a suggestion for all these templates you're creating and modifying.

Recently, when we updated some of our maintenance templates, one of the other users here created the templates in userspace, asked our opinion on them, and allowed us to modify them so they looked right to us.

My suggestion would be that, for all these new templates you're creating, you create them in userspace first so we can all take a look at them and modify them if needed. Then, when they're ready, we can move them to the appropriate place. For templates you plan to modify, try copying the source code into a new userspace page and modifying it there, as we did when we updated our templates. We can then give feedback and modify them as needed, and, when they're good to go, we can change the source code on the "live" page. For the pages only admins can edit, I believe you're able to still view and copy the source code.

Another example of this is when someone copied the main page's source code years ago in order to update it. It used to look like this, but, thanks to the work of one user, who was an Editor like yourself, the Main Page got the style it currently has today.

-- Gestrid (talk) 18:37, 24 July 2016 (UTC)