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FYI - Open Tapping

When "Open Tapping" and its companion "Remote Looting" was first released with Riders of Rohan, it applied only to Rohan. However, it proved so successful (and we beat upon the Devs during the Beta) that it was extended to all of Middle Earth in the next update - 8.1.

"Remote Looting" means that you don't need to click on a defeated Mob to collect the loot.

Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC - talk 02:33, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the historical perspective. This game has seen a lot of changes which is why I signed up and started helping out here. I hope you and others don't think it should stay out of date to preserve the historical info. I mean, the old pages about traiting could be preserved in an OLD section. The archival section could have a different background color to warn people it's not current. Not sure if space issues prevents that, but.. old information always helps a person understand why doing something in the new system works so well and doing something else doesn't work. Many memes from the old system are preserved in the new.

I know because I've actually been playing for a long time, but not seriously. I never cared about getting a toon up to 50, then 65, then... whatever. When I first started, you had to get to the back of a bear to avoid the roar. Now in Misty Mountains I noticed that doesn't work and the roar is AoE. Anyway only an old player would get it that you used to care about the damage the dot did to you and the debuff was worse. I died to the dot more than once, and that was when dying had a significant penalty. Then the penalty was lowered, now it is gone. I respect those who got to 50/65 back then, but I wasn't about to be LFF for the landscape. So I played something else, and when that got old, LOTRO got easier, and now it's fun for a wimp like me. When I'm 95 with just one toon, maybe another one at 75 (I need an explorer and my first toon was guardian/explorer, so I think he will be resurrected from the ashes), I can slow down and do all the content, and just alt for raid/fellow calls.

My husband is terribly excited that I'm taking an interest in "his" game. He stuck with it from the start (much more frustration tolerance than me, lol), and his virtues are ALL (literally all of them, not just he useful ones) higher than 16. He's not a documenter like me though. I think back to those early days and want to help others over the bumps. There are still tricky things about this game. LI's, how to get those worn symbols of celebrimor without paying thru nose at Skirm camp.. and I notice the worn symbol of the elder king aren't even buyable you MUST do that raid which means my frist 95 won't have a first age level 75 weapon at that level bc he won't have completed even the access quest in time, maybe some people don't care so much, but I like all aspects of the game to be playable. And players who've been leveling through the caps progression already have a bunch stored up. I don't, and neither will any new player. Begging off my husband is not my "thing." I play or I don't play. But people would rather do Turtle cuz it's fast, lol.

Acatlovertoo (talk) 15:59, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Basically, most things get updated "in-place" if someone actually "notices" and does it. Some of the "larger items" become either simple footnotes or "archived. Typically, those are quests, where the quest name gets moved to "quest-old" or some such thing. Moria had a bunch of quests that were dome that way -- at least when the Moria update first took place.

There are no hard and fast rules other than the goal to present what is currently in-game as the most obvious place "where folks will likely look."

The issue today is that, just as in-game, there are far fewer of us maintaing the Wiki than there used to be... and Turbine keeps changing thing faster than we can update them! A "classic" example is the current Traits situation. We barely have scratched the surface on documenting the new traits, and even less progress on documenting the Deeds which lead to the Trait Points. see: Talk:Guardian Deeds

Talk Pages

Hi there! I happened to find [[User Talk Acatlovertoo]] and think you may have confused it with User talk: Acatlovertoo (this page!). There's no need to create a separate talk page for yourself. so if you'd like to copy anything from there and mark it for deletion (add {{Delete Page}} to the top, mind the capitalization) and someone will axe it for you. Happy wiki-ing! :) Sethladan 19:28, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up, I wondered where that page went.