Metalsmith's Guild

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Metalsmith's Guild-hall
Region: Ered Luin
Area: Thorin's Gate
Settlement: Thorin's Hall
Location: [13.8S, 103.2W]
Metalsmith's Guild Hall.jpg

The original Metalsmith's Guild-hall is found in Thorin's Hall - The Forging Hall, at its western wall.

This is the home for the Metalsmith's Guild where it is possible to gain reputation and obtain exclusive recipes and items not possible to obtain by other means.

The Metalsmith's Guild trains serious students of the armourer's art in advanced techniques, allowing them to create superior items with less effort.

NOTE: since Update 27, players may find the guild NPCs located in The House of Craft in Minas Tirith (Midsummer) [23.2N, 54.9W] to be preferable to Thorin's Hall, since Tailor can also be guilded in the same location in Minas Tirith (Midsummer), thus obviating a separate trip. Minas Tirith (Midsummer) is available to characters of all levels.


Metalsmith's Guild Entrance
NPC Function
Dwarf.png Hávar Metalsmith's Guild Leader
Dwarf.png Reifnir Metalsmith's Guild Crest Recipes
Dwarf.png Grani Metalsmith's Guild Crest Trader
Dwarf.png Lar Metalsmith's Guild Improved Recipes
Dwarf.png Grímnir Metalsmith's Guild Legendary Recipes

In addition to those already mentioned, NPCs are also found in these locations:



In order to gain reputation in your chosen guild, you must:

  1. Purchase guild recipes from Reifnir, the Metalsmith's Guild Crest Recipes vendor
  2. Craft any or all of the recipes to make "crests"
  3. Right-click on the crests to gain guild reputation. Consider using a reputation accelerator (may be granted by Hobbit presents, or purchased from Marks vendor).
  4. Remember to repeat the process of making each crest each day, and consume it to gain reputation.
    • with normal real life interruptions, a character can gain Westemnet standing with the Guild in about a month
  5. The easiest way to reach Honoured (Minas Ithil) Master of the Guild standing is to have the Minas Morgul Expansion.
    • Pick up the quest Back to Basics - Chainmail from Hávar.
    • Follow the quest chain to get a total of 200.000 rep, which is what you need to reach Honoured (Minas Ithil) Master.
  6. If you don't have the Minas Morgul Expansion you can use the "old" guild recipes to gain the 200.000 rep needed.

Item Reputation Points Cooldown
Small Expert Crest-icon.png Small Expert Crest 300   18 hours
Medium Expert Crest-icon.png Medium Expert Crest 900   2 days 18 hours
Small Artisan Crest-icon.png Small Artisan Crest 400   18 hours
Medium Artisan Crest-icon.png Medium Artisan Crest 1,200   2 days 18 hours
Small Master Crest-icon.png Small Master Crest 500   18 hours
Medium Master Crest-icon.png Medium Master Crest 1,500   2 days 18 hours
Large Master Crest-icon.png Large Master Crest 3,000   6 days 18 hours
Small Supreme Crest-icon.png Small Supreme Crest 600   18 hours
Medium Supreme Crest-icon.png Medium Supreme Crest 1,800   2 days 18 hours
Large Supreme Crest-icon.png Large Supreme Crest 3,600   6 days 18 hours
Small Westfold Crest-icon.png Small Westfold Crest 700   18 hours
Medium Westfold Crest-icon.png Medium Westfold Crest 2,100   2 days 18 hours
Large Westfold Crest-icon.png Large Westfold Crest 4,200   6 days 18 hours
Small Eastemnet Crest-icon.png Small Eastemnet Crest 800   18 hours
Medium Eastemnet Crest-icon.png Medium Eastemnet Crest 2,400   2 days 18 hours
Large Eastemnet Crest-icon.png Large Eastemnet Crest 4,800   6 days 18 hours
Small Westemnet Crest-icon.png Small Westemnet Crest 900   18 hours
Medium Westemnet Crest-icon.png Medium Westemnet Crest 2,700   2 days 18 hours
Large Westemnet Crest-icon.png Large Westemnet Crest 5,400   6 days 18 hours
Small Westemnet Crest-icon.png Minor Token of Esteem - Metalsmith's Guild 10,000   none
Small Westemnet Crest-icon.png Guild Leader's Crest 50,000   none


The Metalsmith's Guild rewards its fellow members with recipes from Expert to Eastemnet tier; see the following vendors to claim them when you gain the required reputation level: