User:RingTailCat/Sandbox-9

See discussion that started this page at Template talk:The Great River

RingTailCat's versions

A version with all the landmarks in one group - i.e., the traditional way

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Settlements, Areas and Landmarks of The Great River
Areas:	Brown Lands • Eorlsmead • Limlight Gorge • Parth Celebrant • The Rushgore • Thinglad • Wailing Hills	Areas:
Settlements:	Haldirith • Stangard	Settlements:
Landmarks:	Thinglad Foul-maw's Den • His-urdan • The Old Burrows • Ungund Eorlsmead Abandoned Farm • Eorlsmead Tower Limlight Gorge The Ent-grove (Limlight Grove) • The Fallen Watchtower • Limlight Gatehouse • Limlight Falls • The Pothole • The Prospector's Shack • The Old Sawmill Wailing Hills Frithstan's Camp • The Cuthstan • Nink-hai Camp • Mor-hai Settlement • Secluded Clearing • Venom-bite Cave • Aster Hill Parth Celebrant Idmar's Camp • Field of Celebrant • Ost Celebrant • The Murderous Pit Rushgore Aculf's Camp • Atburg • Wyrmdenn • The Creeping Mud • Tik Botokh • The Clutch-ground Brown Lands The Desolation of the Gardens • Etheburg • Helstor • Lashkarg • The Stone-hole	Landmarks:
Interiors:		Interiors:

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Zimoon's Examples

Below is Zimoon's 2 examples. They are done in raw HTML to get across the deeper changes necessary for avoiding doubling area names and so on, the fight will be how to best express settlements, hence two examples:

Settlements, Areas, and Landmarks of The Great River

Settlements: Haldirith • Stangard Areas Landmarks Thinglad Foul-maw's Den • His-urdan • The Old Burrows • Ungund Eorlsmead Abandoned Farm • Eorlsmead Tower Limlight Gorge The Ent-grove (Limlight Grove) • The Fallen Watchtower • Limlight Gatehouse • Limlight Falls • The Pothole • The Prospector's Shack • The Old Sawmill Wailing Hills Frithstan's Camp • The Cuthstan • Nink-hai Camp • Mor-hai Settlement • Secluded Clearing • Venom-bite Cave • Aster Hill Parth Celebrant Idmar's Camp • Field of Celebrant • Ost Celebrant • The Murderous Pit Rushgore Aculf's Camp • Atburg • Wyrmdenn • The Creeping Mud • Tik Botokh • The Clutch-ground Brown Lands The Desolation of the Gardens • Etheburg • Helstor • Lashkarg • The Stone-hole

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Settlements, Areas, and Landmarks of The Great River

Settlements:   Haldirith • Stangard Areas Landmarks Thinglad Foul-maw's Den • His-urdan • The Old Burrows • Ungund Eorlsmead Abandoned Farm • Eorlsmead Tower Limlight Gorge The Ent-grove (Limlight Grove) • The Fallen Watchtower • Limlight Gatehouse • Limlight Falls • The Pothole • The Prospector's Shack • The Old Sawmill Wailing Hills Frithstan's Camp • The Cuthstan • Nink-hai Camp • Mor-hai Settlement • Secluded Clearing • Venom-bite Cave • Aster Hill Parth Celebrant Idmar's Camp • Field of Celebrant • Ost Celebrant • The Murderous Pit Rushgore Aculf's Camp • Atburg • Wyrmdenn • The Creeping Mud • Tik Botokh • The Clutch-ground Brown Lands The Desolation of the Gardens • Etheburg • Helstor • Lashkarg • The Stone-hole

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PS: I did not bother ordering areas alphabetically ;) -- Zimoon 03:02, 3 April 2012 (EDT)

PPS: The above could easily go into all regions, if it is important here I guess it is (almost) equally important wherever. Zimoon 03:05, 3 April 2012 (EDT)

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Settlements, Areas, and Landmarks of The Great River

Settlements: Haldirith • Stangard Areas Landmarks Thinglad Foul-maw's Den • His-urdan • The Old Burrows • Ungund Eorlsmead Abandoned Farm • Eorlsmead Tower Limlight Gorge The Ent-grove (Limlight Grove) • The Fallen Watchtower • Limlight Gatehouse • Limlight Falls • The Pothole • The Prospector's Shack • The Old Sawmill Wailing Hills Frithstan's Camp • The Cuthstan • Nink-hai Camp • Mor-hai Settlement • Secluded Clearing • Venom-bite Cave • Aster Hill Parth Celebrant Idmar's Camp • Field of Celebrant • Ost Celebrant • The Murderous Pit Rushgore Aculf's Camp • Atburg • Wyrmdenn • The Creeping Mud • Tik Botokh • The Clutch-ground Brown Lands The Desolation of the Gardens • Etheburg • Helstor • Lashkarg • The Stone-hole

Third try, tweaking settlements only. Zimoon 14:39, 3 April 2012 (EDT)

Magill's Examples

Settlements, Areas, and Landmarks of The Great River

Areas Landmarks Brown Lands The Desolation of the Gardens • Etheburg • Helstor • Lashkarg • The Stone-hole Eorlsmead Abandoned Farm • Eorlsmead Tower • Stangard Limlight Gorge The Ent-grove (Limlight Grove) • The Fallen Watchtower • Limlight Gatehouse • Limlight Falls • The Pothole • The Prospector's Shack • The Old Sawmill Parth Celebrant Idmar's Camp • Field of Celebrant • Ost Celebrant • Parth Celebrant • The Murderous Pit Rushgore Aculf's Camp • Atburg • Wyrmdenn • The Creeping Mud • Tik Botokh • The Clutch-ground Thinglad Foul-maw's Den • Haldirith • His-urdan • The Old Burrows • Ungund Wailing Hills Frithstan's Camp • The Cuthstan • Nink-hai Camp • Mor-hai Settlement • Secluded Clearing • Venom-bite Cave • Aster Hill

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Ok, There's how I would do it... I realize that the "Settlements" issue is a separate one, but that is why I Included them in Landmarks, which they are also. (Changed colors just for the halibut
Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC (talk) 13:29, 3 April 2012 (EDT)

We cannot hide settlements, they are for most players the hub while doing certain areas. Even if we emphasize them within the landmarks I believe that is not the way to move forward. We could fiddle with the looks but not take them away. Zimoon 14:34, 3 April 2012 (EDT)

And I hope the green is just your way of joking, right? -- Zimoon 14:40, 3 April 2012 (EDT)

Yes... as I said, just for the Halibut! (celebrating St. Paty's day late?)-- interesting problem with The Great River -- There is really only one "Settlement" but there are several quest hubs. Haldirith in Thinglad, for example has fewer "features" than Etheburg in the Brown Lands, and probably the same number as Parth Celebrant, which is both the name of the Area and a "location" - POI. The quest hubs in The Great River are basically the "areas.

BTW. The "Ent Grove" is what shows up in the Explorer Deed, and I think when you first enter, but the Radar name is "Limlight Glade." Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC (talk) 15:44, 3 April 2012 (EDT)

Ok, bolded those locations which have "services" in each area. (and added Parth Celebrant to itself. Is blue better?Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC (talk) 16:10, 3 April 2012 (EDT) ---

Settlements, Areas, and Landmarks of The Great River

Areas Landmarks Brown Lands The Desolation of the Gardens • Etheburg • Helstor • Lashkarg • The Stone-hole Eorlsmead Abandoned Farm • Eorlsmead Tower • Stangard Limlight Gorge The Ent-grove (Limlight Grove) • The Fallen Watchtower • Limlight Gatehouse • Limlight Falls • The Pothole • The Prospector's Shack • The Old Sawmill Parth Celebrant Idmar's Camp • Field of Celebrant • Ost Celebrant • Parth Celebrant • The Murderous Pit Rushgore Aculf's Camp • Atburg • Wyrmdenn • The Creeping Mud • Tik Botokh • The Clutch-ground Thinglad Foul-maw's Den • Haldirith • His-urdan • The Old Burrows • Ungund Wailing Hills Frithstan's Camp • The Cuthstan • Nink-hai Camp • Mor-hai Settlement • Secluded Clearing • Venom-bite Cave • Aster Hill

Some different colors. Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC (talk) 16:22, 3 April 2012 (EDT)

I added some unofficial locations in italic in the previous example. RingTailCat (talk) 16:38, 3 April 2012 (EDT)

Uzekh's Example

Reformatted to three columns.

Locations in The Great River

Areas Settlements Landmarks Thinglad Haldirith Foul-maw's Den • His-urdan • The Old Burrows • Ungund Eorlsmead Stangard Abandoned Farm• Eorlsmead Tower Limlight Gorge Limlight Glade • The Fallen Watchtower • Limlight Gatehouse • Limlight Falls • The Pothole • The Prospector's Shack • The Old Sawmill Wailing Hills Frithstan's Camp • The Cuthstan • Nink-hai Camp • Mor-hai Settlement • Secluded Clearing • Venom-bite Cave • Aster Hill Parth Celebrant Idmar's Camp • Field of Celebrant • Ost Celebrant • The Murderous Pit Rushgore Aculf's Camp • Atburg • Wyrmdenn • The Creeping Mud • Tik Botokh • The Clutch-ground Brown Lands The Desolation of the Gardens • Etheburg • Helstor • Lashkarg • The Stone-hole

Obviously, a lot of information is missing, but this is the general idea I was thinking of. Uzekh (talk) 17:52, 3 April 2012 (EDT)

Quick edit to remove centering.

Locations in The Great River

Areas Settlements Landmarks Thinglad Haldirith Foul-maw's Den • His-urdan • The Old Burrows • Ungund Eorlsmead Stangard Abandoned Farm • Eorlsmead Tower Limlight Gorge Limlight Glade • The Fallen Watchtower • Limlight Gatehouse • Limlight Falls • The Pothole • The Prospector's Shack • The Old Sawmill Wailing Hills Frithstan's Camp • The Cuthstan • Nink-hai Camp • Mor-hai Settlement • Secluded Clearing • Venom-bite Cave • Aster Hill Parth Celebrant Idmar's Camp • Field of Celebrant • Ost Celebrant • The Murderous Pit Rushgore Aculf's Camp • Atburg • Wyrmdenn • The Creeping Mud • Tik Botokh • The Clutch-ground Brown Lands The Desolation of the Gardens • Etheburg • Helstor • Lashkarg • The Stone-hole

Hey, now we are talking! This one is pretty good I think, settlements are a column per area. At least I understood it right away, but on the other hand I have been in the discussion for over a day now :)

We need no rush but this is definitely a jump forward. Thanks!

-- Zimoon 18:35, 3 April 2012 (EDT)

Tentatively we move the discussion over to Template talk:Region Navigation Box for the more serious and final discussions. IMHO Uzekh's suggestion is my favourite so far, but needs some polishing. Another question is whether to drop the template/parameter style and just provide a boilerplate, but let's discuss that over at the "official" talk-page, right? -- I don't dare move this since it is RTC's property ;)

-- Zimoon 03:30, 4 April 2012 (EDT)

Discussion continues at Template talk:Region Navigation Box. Examples are still welcome at this location. RingTailCat (talk) 04:17, 4 April 2012 (EDT)