User talk:Deathbanes
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Welcome to the wiki. Please have a look at the Help pages. --Drono (talk) 08:42, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
Consistency and wikifing
Hello, i saw you have been creating new pages for tribes, however there is several issues with them.
I would suggest that you stop creating new pages until they are resolved and there is some agreed convention.
--Drono (talk) 12:41, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Sources
Drono has brought up some good points to you. If your browser doesn't have built-in spell checking, may I suggest typing in a word processor for the spell check feature and then copy pasting into the edit fields in your browser? Microsoft Word (and I'm sure other programs) can also catch missing periods at the end of sentences and such if grammar check is enabled.
I appreciate your enthusiasm and willingness to write articles for the wiki and I'm glad to hear that you'll address problems. Everyone is new once and even those of us who aren't make mistakes as well!
I've got one other thing I'd like to bring up not previously mentioned. Could you link your sources for the information provided in your articles not directly stated in-game? Thank you! --Rubyctook (talk) 21:03, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- To elaborate on Rubyctook's point, in general we try to stick to information only coming from our primary source, meaning information provided by the game itself. Tolkien lore from outside of the game isn't generally appropriate for inclusion in this Wiki. That being said, if you do have sources in-game that you can point to that confirm the information on your Orc-tribe pages, then please cite them for clarification. Thanks! --Gaerlin (talk) 05:26, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Alright, It's been brought up that your sources are links to other wiki pages. This is not a viable source (or what the above directors are asking you to provide). We want to make sure that the information provided for the wiki pertains to the game Lord of the Rings Online, that if taken from other sources (other websites, books, etc) that reference is provided. If the information is not from another source and is just a retelling (paraphrasing) of information already provided (or just a different way of displaying information 0- in story form if you will). That's not what we do here. Rogue (talk) 21:38, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Blank articles?
Why are you creating so many of them? It's a lot of work for someone who will have to delete all of them. --Thurallor (talk) 19:14, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- I cannot delete the pages. All I can see is the "purge" button, and so I just leave them blank rather than have duplicate pages.Deathbanes (talk) 19:17, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
There are currently no pages (that I know of) that go to the broken ones, so I had thought there was no need for redirect. Also, is there some button I am unaware of that deletes a page? -- Deathbanes (talk) 19:26, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Only admins can delete articles. Generally, you should try to be more careful about creating pages with the wrong name.
But if you do so, you should use the "Move" feature (in the "More" pulldown menu) to rename it. That will automatically create a redirect from the old name to the new one.When you blank out an article, that will have to be manually fixed by an admin, either by deleting it, or creating a redirect. --Thurallor (talk) 19:33, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
In the "more" pulldown menu, there is only "purge", and no "move" -- Deathbanes (talk) 19:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- The purge feature is to clear the page cache and doesn't affect the article itself. You need to have admin status or higher to see the delete tab and the move option.
- However! You can tag your articles to be deleted or moved.
- For delete see Template:Delete Page. The easiest way to use it is to simply type at the top of the article in question, for example: {{Delete|Reason}}.
- As for moving, see Template:Move. For an example, you could put {{Move|This is the Correct Page}} at the top of the article in question. This would tell an admin you wanted it to be moved to an article titled This is the Correct Page.
- You can disregard the nocat parameter in both these templates. --Rubyctook (talk) 20:07, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Why say I should delete/move if I can't? -- Deathbanes (talk) 19:50, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry. I am not very familiar with all of the access permissions of the various user levels. --Thurallor (talk) 20:05, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Also sorry if my questions/comments seem hostile. I can be blunt sometimes, but I don't mean it that way. Welcome and thanks for your contributions! --Thurallor (talk) 20:09, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- It's always easy to forget when different options became available to you and once you're an admin that's all you see ;) --Rubyctook (talk) 20:12, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry for reacting shortly, I was up rather too late on a long day, and I will mark them for deletion. --Deathbanes (talk) 17:50, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- Up too late on a long day is one of the very few things I always consider a valid excuse ;)
- FYI--And I don't think you were purposefully being rude!-- Wiki etiquette is to not delete someone else's comments on your talk page. I saw that you removed some comments. If you feel you addressed the issues, you can just add a comment of your own to that effect, or use strikethrough, but it's polite to leave comments by others in place. Talk pages are the closest thing any wiki has to a messageboard so I believe the logic is that you leave the comments of others as is--like you would in a forum setting (albeit partially because you can't change the comments of others in a forum). --Ruby (talk) 22:13, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry for reacting shortly, I was up rather too late on a long day, and I will mark them for deletion. --Deathbanes (talk) 17:50, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- It's always easy to forget when different options became available to you and once you're an admin that's all you see ;) --Rubyctook (talk) 20:12, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Editing Templates
I noticed your edit to the delete page template. Generally the type of information you were trying to convey does not go on the template article. That's left clean - just for the template code so if needed we can easily change what coding is needed. Any information that seems unclear should be mentioned either on talk pages, help pages related to the subject, or in the template doc (if an admin feels it belongs there). I would ask to refrain from making changes to templates and just mention in Discord (where we monitor questions) or on the talk pages what your concerns are. Thanks. Rogue (talk) 21:28, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, I will refrain, I deleted that because I have a doc that I am using, so I did not need it anymore. -- Deathbanes (talk) 20:29, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Page slides
Hello, i saw you have made lot of edits with pages slides on quest pages. I have discussed it with other Bureaucrats - and the consensus was that it is something we do not want there. It looks a little bit out of place in the layout of the quest page and is essentially duplicate of the navigation in quest chain.
We are happy for every new contributor, but new contributors should start by making smaller changes so they get more familiar with how the wiki works. If you have an idea for something that could be added or changed, that involves many pages, it should be discussed with other wiki editors first. That way we avoid making lot of changes that need to be reverted.
Thanks for understanding --Drono (talk) 07:49, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
- I saw your comments on Discord, glad to see you there! It would be best to ask before you start something so involved rather than after, though. You can also post on an admin's talk page if you have a question about something. --Ruby (talk) 19:13, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
"Previous / Next" buttons might work in cases where there is a simple sequence of quests -- e.g. the Epic story quests. But it wouldn't work in cases where a quest has multiple prerequisites, or is a prerequisite for multiple other quests. (Or it's awkward; e.g. Quest:Epilogue -- Laerdan's Parcel.) I think it's a reasonable idea, but I would prefer that it be added to the Infobox Quests template ("previousquest" and "nextquest" parameters) and simply be left blank if there is more than one "previous" or "next" quest. Then the box would display ◀ and/or ▶ button as appropriate. --Thurallor (talk) 22:40, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Promoted to Ninja
Congratulations! A belated promotion to. You have been very active and that has been noticed and appreciated. We hope you feel welcomed and like being part of our big family. If there is anything, please contact us at Discord, or at our talk-pages. (I re-added the categories to your user-page to reflect your current status with us.) — Zimoon 11:19, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! Deathbanes (talk) 18:16, 26 November 2021 (UTC)