User talk:Marble

Linking to ?? on pages

Hiya, quick note: See if you can avoid adding [[??]] as you're going around adding info. It's a great "reminder" that things need to be added there, but it can clutter up Special:WantedPages. You can use Template:Stub/Item, Template:Stub/Accuracy, or Template:IN if you want to make sure someone follows up with drop info, barter info, an icon, etc. Otherwise, thanks for all those set items you added! Sethladan 21:56, 15 April 2011 (EDT)

Image shots

Please refrain from taking what we like to call "vanity" shots of locations. we like to see all images following these guidelines, that being no characters in the picture (1st person view please), names turned off (ctrl + N), no rings, and just a general good close or near-far shot of what we are looking at. Also, we would like to have all image files named appropriately, no screenshot####. Please delete these: Category:Ost_Dunhoth_Images. Rogue 21:30, 21 April 2011 (EDT)

don´t have permission to delete --Marble 02:37, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

{{Delete Page}} will add it to the list for an admin to take care of. Sethladan 14:35, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

Been meaning to ask for a while -- would you be willing to edit the remaining images with a descriptive filename in the file page description (since I don't think you can rename)? I don't have enough knowledge of Ost Dunhoth to name them myself -- "Ost Dunhoth East Corridor" or the like would be just fine -- but it seems a shame for them not to get used. With a descriptive name, an editor who isn't familiar with the instance could put them in an appropriate place with Ost Dunhoth content. (Feel free to place them somewhere yourself, of course!) Also, I moved/renamed the icon you uploaded of "Gold Setting of Grace" since it's for the item slotted on a weapon tooltip, not on the relic tooltip itself, and I finally added those relic pages. So that it didn't end up in the unused images, I linked it to your sandbox, I hope that's fine! Rubyctook 02:57, 26 May 2011 (EDT)

Character stats... use of "data.lotro.com" info

1- Hi there... Your ID threw me at first... my cousin's name is "Marbie"! (depending on the font the i and the l are pretty hard to tell apart.

2- I don't know if this can be implemented via this wiki, but...

If you are registered with one of the Devs, you can get access to "data.lotro.com" which allows you to grab the actual info for characters... in more-or-less real-time... same update cycle as "my.lotro.com"

https://my.lotro.com/bracket/datalotrocom-usage-guide/ https://my.lotro.com/bracket/2009/12/10/datalotrocom-now-with-items/ (Goes to his blog page ... where you can still ask for an API key as far as I know. I think you need to send him a PM with your forum userid (mine is valamar) as I recall.

Seems that they've moved or otherwise hidden the docs... aha here they are now...

          https://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Data.lotro.com_Usage_Guide

And looking at some of the "very recent" forum notes it appears the interface was just updated with Update 3!

         https://forums-old.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?386946-data.lotro.com-updated-with-Update-2-data/page3

Looks like Duwis is "the man in charge" now.

I use it indirectly most of the time via LOTROSTER. Which is Kinship oriented to grab all the stats for a kin.

As I recall, it is not a big deal to use... simply a HTML/SOAP interface. I haven't played with it for ages now.

But I think that:

          Format: /{DEVELOPER_NAME}/{API_KEY}/charactersheet/w/{WORLDNAME}/c/{CHARACTERNAME}/

still is correct.

    Yes, this does pull the data for my hunter: 
           "https://data.lotro.com/valamar/a8ca0c5de7c466ecdd8e7f2df1d610ea/charactersheet/w/Gladden/c/Valamar/"> call valamar</a>
    But doesn't do anything with the XML data.. you have to parse it out.

(And I you are wiling to write a parsing routine, I'd love it... I just never got around to doing it.)

Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC (talk) 18:08, 8 June 2011 (EDT)

Sorry way over my head - i did not understand a word :) i am no programmer and i have no ways of doing that in a template with my knowledge. --Marble (talk) 08:44, 9 June 2011 (EDT)

no biggie... I barely understand it myself, that's why I was hoping you might :) At any rate, I started playing with it at User:Magill/Sandbox-4 - thats just your template with data hand coded in and the xml return from the hml. I'm learning a lot more though tonight .. it seems that lorebook.lotro.com is itself a "media wiki" and there exist tools to collect stuff from it... namely all of the missing icons and etc. Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC (talk) 00:53, 10 June 2011 (EDT)

Regarding collecting info/icons from Lorebook, please bear in mind that we don't want to just be a mirror for them, as things are often out-of-date/just plain wrong. It's a good resource for confirming data, but we definitely keep information taken directly from the game as our "gold standard." :) Sethladan (talk) 13:37, 10 June 2011 (EDT)

Data.lotro.com is different from the Lorebook. "Data" is actually a directly provided Turbine resource. It is not a "top priority" for updates, but it is still an official source, so it tends to lag behind until major updates are done. It is also an official source for specific data such as character stats and configurations and the like. That information tends to get used by a couple of guild (kindships) who make roster pages on a periodic basis. Lotroster is one tool which I use. https://www.lostrealm.ca/tower/node/24

"Data" is actually a documented (more or less) XML feed, while the only way to get info from the lorebook is by "scraping"

I have to check... to see if today's update "corrected all of the Token cooldowns I had just changed to match what was in-game :) Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2011 (EDT)