User talk:Gisel Avaleazar

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Hi, I'm Gis. Also known as Giseldah on the Lotro forum. I have multiple characters on a number of servers. Among them a few captains on the highest level, a hunter and a minstrel.

I love numbers and puzzling with numbers. :) I've created a spreadsheet, which allows just that: https://forums-old.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?539545-LotroCalc-calculate-stats-amp-plan-upgrades

Welcome

Glad to see someone with an interest in the "stats" -- there have been many changed to LOTRO since the original pages were created with various comments on how the math behind things worked. Without question, everything changed "again" with the advent of the Trait Tree system in Update 12.
Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC - talk 21:19, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Rating to percentage formula

I'm trying to store some things in the wiki which I know of..

I've made this article Rating to percentage formula. It's complicated and tried to add as much visual as possible to make it easier to understand. I think.. perhaps, every article with some specific rating as topic could specify some standard data information and a link to the article which shows how to use that data for making calculations if people wish to.

critical hit rating:

level caps:
1-50: P=15%, R/L=70
51-84: P=20%, R/L=2124.8/19
85- : P=25%, R/L=3200/19
segments:
1: P=15%,K=1190/3
2: P=5%, K=794.8
3: P=5%, K=1075.2

I could also make some table perhaps in the article itself, because it looks rather complex. xD

Edit: I've added a table to the article now. Ideally, rating topics should be cleaned up, have level/caps information (not the R/L stuff) which is easy to understand and a link to the more complex calculation article.

Did you want me to install the math extension?

Let me know if you want me to install the math extension ? --Lotroadmin (talk) 05:17, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

I assume it's a scripted thing like I'm using now in OpenOffice Math? I guess it could come in handy.. This from the calculation example doesn't look very well: R/L = (70+2380/57)+((0.22-0.2)/(1-(0.22-0.2)))*(4760/3) But it's not a big problem.

Your very own category

I've moved all of your graphs over to Category: Graphs -- a subcategory of Category: Images. . . . or at least I think I have! :)

Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC - talk 22:05, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you :) Looks nice. Shall make a few more when I have time. Hope that I can get them there haha Gisel Avaleazar (talk) 22:32, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Promotion

Congrats, you've been promoted to Editor! Thanks for all your work on the statistical side of the game. You've proven a reliable contributor over the last few years. :D -- Elinnea (talk) 13:20, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. :) I'll continue to be active in that corner, because I'm not very good in writing big articles.. --Gisel Avaleazar (talk) 20:01, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

CalcStat expressions test

We have 1 Christmas tree.
We have 2 Christmas trees.

Level: 3, Total XP: 275, Level XP: 175, Difference: 75
Level: 100, Total XP: 46,259,000, Level XP: 2287397, Difference: 108923

New CalcStatTable test

Super Column 1 Super Column 2
Column 1 Column 2 Column 1 Column 2
1,1,1: 1 1,1,2: 1 1,2,1: 14 1,2,2: 14
2,1,1: 2 2,1,2: 2 2,2,1: 15 2,2,2: 15
3,1,1: 3 3,1,2: 3 3,2,1: 16 3,2,2: 16
4,1,1: 4 4,1,2: 4 4,2,1: 17 4,2,2: 17
5,1,1: 50 5,1,2: 50 5,2,1: 18 5,2,2: 18
6,1,1: 6 6,1,2: 6 6,2,1: 19 6,2,2: 19
7,1,1: 7 7,1,2: 7 7,2,1: 20 7,2,2: 20
8,1,1: 8 8,1,2: 8 8,2,1: 21 8,2,2: 21
9,1,1: 9 9,1,2: 9 9,2,1: 22 9,2,2: 22
10,1,1: 10 10,1,2: 10 10,2,1: 23 10,2,2: 23
11,1,1: 11 11,1,2: 11 11,2,1: 24 11,2,2: 24
12,1,1: 12 12,1,2: 12 12,2,1: 25 12,2,2: 25
13,1,1: 13 13,1,2: 13
{{#invoke:CalcStatTable|create|50!!60!!70!!80!!90!!95!!100!!105|Row!!OrgL!!L!!CritDef;1.0;%+.0f Critical Defence!!WorthValBA;P;;Worth|||SESel($L,70,$L+3,90,4*$L-186,100,2*$L-10,213)}}
Tier Minimum Level Item Level Attrib Worth
1 50 53 +81 Critical Defence Silver50 Copper
2 60 63 +127 Critical Defence SilverCopper
3 70 73 +172 Critical Defence Silver50 Copper
4 80 134 +387 Critical Defence 10 Silver55 Copper
5 90 174 +519 Critical Defence 12 Silver55 Copper
6 95 180 +538 Critical Defence 12 Silver85 Copper
7 100 190 +571 Critical Defence 13 Silver35 Copper
8 105 213 +708 Critical Defence 14 Silver50 Copper

Your template StatCapsTable breaks menu

Hello Gisel.
I removed your StatCapsTable templates from Character Stats, as they broke the menu.
It has been broken since Revision as of 2022-01-30T00:28:10

I thought maybe the <headertabs /> were the problem, but removing just that didn't fix it.
I tried a lot of changes with previewing, I even sandboxed it for a few tries.
There's too little info on tabs om mediawiki, but from what I see there, you used it in an unorthodox way :)
Even though that part seemed to work.

Faenrik (talk) 15:34, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Emh mate, that was kinda the most important part of information on that page. Maybe just leaving it there even if it doesn't look that beautiful would be more helpful for the users of the wiki.
Hierok (talk) 15:45, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Not for new or low level players. And why not don't cram too much into one article. Would you consider maybe decrease the complexity of a "basic" page like this (as its title indicates), and make a new page for calculations and seeking perfection? == Further… ==Calculating…?
AND/OR could you possibly fix the destruction of the table?
Oh, User:Hierok did a roll-back, and tagged it for accuracy…
Faenrik (talk) 20:45, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, I pondered about it a bit and it probably is best on a seperate menu if the breaking is that serious. Also something I thought about is putting it to the front of the page, cause after that chapter things are fine again.
Hierok (talk) 08:46, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I believe that it always had some problem. I don't know how to solve it. It would be nice if it was interactive, so that you can choose a server or any level and cap numbers change accordingly. A simple solution is maybe using collapsing tables instead. I'll look into that.
Gisel Avaleazar (talk) 14:06, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Done.
Gisel Avaleazar (talk) 15:31, 21 March 2024 (UTC)