Talk:Article Management Tags

See also: Category Talk:Article Management Tags

Issues

I organized and cleaned up the Article Management Tags/Display page. This made some inconsistencies and redundancies quite apparent:

• some stub templates are called "X Stub"; others are called "Stubs/X"
• there are three different templates for outdated/obsolete articles: Template:Stub/Outdated, Template:Obsolete, Template:Expansion
• there are two nearly-identical templates for legendary server info: Template:Legendary, Template:Legendary Only
• the category naming is somewhat inconsistent; for example, I don't think the Category:Stubs/Only Beta category should be a subcategory of Category:Stubs .... such articles may be fully complete, they just aren't applicable to the live servers.
• Template:Stub/Mob and Template:Creature Stub seem redundant with each other

I also deleted the table of AMTs from the main Article Management Tags article and just transcluded the /Display article. The table that was there didn't seem to add any value. --Thurallor (talk) 21:05, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

As i understand it, obsolete is for stuff that was in game but is no longer there vs outdated is for marking current pages that are outdated

Also according to naming creature vs mob is for enemies on landscape vs instance -- Drono (via Discord)

Even tho it seems it was not used that way, i think we could use both 'Legendary' and 'Legendary Only'. Since some content was added only to Legendary servers, but i know at least portraits are earnable only on legendary server but once earned can be used on live. Not sure if there is anything else like that tho. --Drono (talk) 06:23, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Even for that case, you could just use template with an argument:

{{Legendary Only|Although this item is usable on any server, it can only be earned on a Legendary server.}}

--Thurallor (talk) 06:36, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Actions

• Deleted Template:Legendary. It was only used on a single article. Replacement is Template:Legendary Only. --Thurallor (talk) 06:04, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
• Updated descriptions on the Article Management Tags/Display page for Template:Stub/Outdated and Template:Obsolete, clarifying the difference. --Thurallor (talk) 06:13, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

  I still don't understand the difference between Template:Expansion and Template:Stub/Outdated. Why else would a page become outdated, other than due to an expansion, update, or patch? My guess is that someone thought Template:Expansion was poorly named (correct), devised a replacement for it, and never got rid of the original. --Thurallor (talk) 06:28, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

  I agree, can probably replace the couple pages that use Expansion with Outdated and remove it. --Drono (talk) 06:33, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

  Will do. Regarding Template:Stub/Outdated, can we get rid of the arguments? It's unlike any other AMT, and is unnecessary, since you can just look in the history to see who added the tag. --Thurallor (talk) 06:41, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

  On the other hand, this discussion suggests a possible separate use for Template:Expansion:

  • Template:Stub/Outdated would used when you know something is outdated, but don't know when it became outdated.
  • Template:Expansion would be used when a major expansion arrives, to tag all of the related articles and create a "work list".

  --Thurallor (talk) 06:51, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

  I suggest we eliminate Template:Expansion and make a new {{Worklist|project=<x>}} template that categorizes according to the 'project' argument. --Thurallor (talk) 07:13, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

• Template:Stub/Mob is actually just a redirect to Template:Creature Stub, so I can remove the former from the list. --Thurallor (talk) 06:59, 31 May 2021 (UTC)