Category talk:Beast

The category name is BEAST -- not Beasts according to the lorebook. The category is kind of important due to bane type weapons. Bane dragons effects dragonkin. bane nature effects nature creatures, etc...
--Eleazaros 16:56, 4 March 2008 (PST)

Plurals

Correct plurals of unusual names

• Craban - Crebain
• Elk - Elk or Elks (both valid)
• Hendroval - Hendrevail
• Gauradan - Gauredain
• Morroval - Merrevail? (check)

Same singular & plural

• Lynx
• Moose (I still think it should be Meese :D )

Same singular & plural (game names, open for debate but these sound plural to me ;) )

• Angmarim
• Palefolk
• Siegecraft
• Decayed

DancesInTrees 01:56, 9 June 2008 (PDT)

Category Name

This category is named in singular which breaks the naming rules.

I disagree with Eleazaros' comment from 2008 because an in-game category is not the same as a wiki-category. Rogue thought in the same path when moving this category, as seen in the history listing, but again that is about what is on the page about this genus. I should have read the history before moving this to plural, and then back again, saving both time and confusion :-(

For correctness I suggest this category is renamed to Category:Beast Species, which is the plural that categories should be named in. Or perhaps Category:Species of Beast?

And something on the same line should be applied to other categories of Category:Creatures by Genus. Right? — Zimoon 16:24, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Woah, this category was moved quite a few times in the past!

Indeed, the current rules state that categories should always be plural, which seems fair. But what is the problem with Category:Beasts? Not only is Category:Sub-species of Beast cumbersome, it also focuses more on what's beneath the category than what the category itself is about: the Beast genus. —RoyalKnight5 (talk) 18:28, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

But isn't that what categories are for, to contain sub-cats or pages of a specified kind? Which in this case are the sub-species of "Beast", right? For the same reason we have cat:settlements since it contains relevant sub-cats, or pages that are discussing "settlement" as a topic in itself. I believe Rogue was on to something with her page moves here, "beast" is one genus of many. Hence I moved the page to singular as it is discussing the one genus. But this category contains many sub-species of that genus, plus a page about the subject as such. Should be plural, right? Question is if Category:Beast Species is OK? I like it because it will automatically sort into B in its parent cat ;-)   — Zimoon 18:59, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

PS. Also Category:Beasts would work, I think, as we usually say "beasts" when we either talk about many beings of beast-kind, or discussing many species of beast-kind. DS. — Zimoon 21:36, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Wrote this on Discord but copying here for completeness. As talk pages should be more complete but Discord more chatty.

"Some very old comments by Rogue made me think with another perspective on this topic and I think the following is what we really want to agree on -- a daring assumption, indeed 😉

"We are talking genus and species here.

"Simplest with an example: "Beast" is a "genus" (singular of genera). This implies that the "Beast" page should be singular as it is about one genus. But the beast category should be plural as it contains many beast-kind species. The category itself is not discussing "beast" but is a container of species (beast-kinds), plus a page." — Zimoon 21:40, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

I am trying to rack my brain on this one. I see my moving of page back and forth and have to laugh. Because yah, shouldn't it be Category:Beasts. - good lord it's too late right now for me to debate with my own choice here. Genus is singular, true, but.... *strums fingers* Rogue (talk) 05:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Great to see you laughing 😄 which made me think of some lyrics that apply to me right now:

I never meant to cause you any sorrow
I never meant to cause you any pain
I only wanted to one time to see you laughing ...

Good that we eventually agreed on this one, thanks! — Zimoon 09:01, 10 March 2022 (UTC)