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Professions and Overlook
I noticed your table both added as well as removed. The content looks interesting, indeed, but I think it would better go to its own page, unless such as page do not already exist(?).
However, I was confused too, let me explain: The cook line was intuitively understood, a cook provides this and that which is useful for different classes. It was not very clear what the combination "Jeweller/Burglar => Friend of Elves of Rivendell" means, not any of the Virtues, etc. If this is a work-in-progress I apologize, otherwise I suggest you rethink what it is you want to get across and how that is best presented.
Believe me, I have fallen in that trap many times: it is very clear to me what a table is meant to provide, but when having people review it they just didn't get my thought (and I thought all are psychic). So, I am really looking forward to the end result, please carry on trying ;)
-- Zimoon (talk) 09:21, 14 October 2012 (EDT)
Hello Zimoon! Thank you for taking the time to look it over- you are correct, it was a work in progress. I'm simply not fluent in wiki code yet, so invariably use other tables as study guides. I had accidentally clicked "publish" instead of "preview", hence the rapid addition and removal. My goal is something I have looked for many times, and have heard others asking for- a clear and simple breakdown of what each profession can do for each class. After some thought, it seemed a table would be the easiest to read and leave the smallest footprint, and that attaching it to the professions page was the most appropriate, as I believe those coming to that page are already looking for such information- indeed a couple of the profession descriptions already include a little what I'm talking about. That said, the table is a little larger than I'd expected, and if there is a more appropriate page to add it to please let me know! Sweetmint (talk) 06:34, 17 October 2012 (EDT)
- That looks like a good spot to me, and a handy table. Possibly you could add a sentence at the top of the page: See the bottom of the page/overview for a table of connections between crafting professions and different classes - something along those lines, so someone would think to look.
- Actually I think I would have put the professions down the side with the classes across the top, because it's easier to read from left to right than top-down and I'm more likely to look up what a certain craft can produce than what a certain class will use. But that's personal preference, perhaps, and it could go either way.
- Oh and by the way, if you have something you're working on that's not yet ready to be published, you can make a sandbox to play around in. Example: User:Elinnea/Sandbox. Then you can save as you go, and not have to worry about power outages, browser crashes, or clicking Publish instead of Preview. (I've done it too!) Then you can clear it out when you're done. -- Elinnea (talk) 11:20, 17 October 2012 (EDT)
- Thank you Elinnea! I knew there had to be a function like the Sandbox, I just couldn't think of the right search terms to find it.
- Regarding the horizontal/vertical information for the table, I agree with you, it would be easier to read with the classes across the top. I tried that originally but it turned out to be quite wide and in my experience people are more comfortable scrolling down than over, so I switched the two. I didn't complete that table, so it's possible it won't be as bad as I was afraid of. You are more than welcome to try switching the table info the other way. I like your idea to add a sentence at the top of the professions page, and that, at least I can do immediately.
- I appreciate the help, Sweetmint (talk) 14:41, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
I noticed some revert you made yesterday and I have re-rolled them. I do not know why you did those but they reinstated text that were wrong or misleading. When you revert a trusted editors work, please think twice and always provide an explanation in the comment field. I have no doubt you did it with best of intentions, but so did the editors before you and hence it is simply polite to explain why you erase their work.
-- Zimoon (talk) 02:53, 9 January 2013 (EST)