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VIPs do not have to buy the Warden just tested it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ceifwien (Contribs • User Talk).

Have you bought the Mines of Moria expansion? The warden and rk classes come with that, but if you don't own that you should have to buy them whether you're VIP or not. Amphoras (talkTalk to me!) 09:22, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

Update 12 and 13 Changes

The Warden page is two years out of date and doesn't have any of the recent class changes from Update 12 and 13. Since I've been spending time off-line reexamining the skills, I thought it would be useful for me to spend the same effort on the Wiki page instead. I'll be adding an "Under Construction" template as I begin work. --Calico (talk) 08:33, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Update 12 skill list can be found at: User:Neum/Sandbox-U12-Warden --Calico (talk) 01:06, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Skill and Power deed

Is the class deed Skill and Power right on the wiki, rolling a warden at the moment and i don't got that deed right away. Will keep an eye out when it starts. Snakerider (talk) 16:43, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

Thanks for the fact-checking. Took a look at my Warden who's about 9 months old and he has the deed completed, same requirements and everything as listed here. No way to tell when it opened up for him, though, and things might have changed since I earned the deed (hello major expansion). Looking forward to seeing your update. :) Sethladan 19:17, 10 July 2012 (EDT)
One thing to remember is that no class deeds will start until after you have finished the intro and entered the game proper (usually around level 6 or 7 if you play through the intro quests). So if you're still in there you won't see it yet. I think when I tried this recently the deed opened the first time I used that gambit outside the intro. -- Elinnea (talk) 19:44, 10 July 2012 (EDT)
I went through intro quests as quick as I could, finished at level 6, then I confirm that Efficient Thrust, Wary Blocks & Know Your Enemy popped, but not Skill and Power... --Goingbald (talk) 01:26, 11 July 2012 (EDT)
My warden is now level 10 and deed still not popped up, will try it each level but i will be only able to check untill level 19. Snakerider (talk) 05:35, 11 July 2012 (EDT)
Ah, I've just checked the Lorebook and it lists the deed at level 20. [1] -- Elinnea (talk) 11:24, 11 July 2012 (EDT)
Okay, I will try if i can reach lvl 20 on it to check that out. Snakerider (talk) 13:10, 11 July 2012 (EDT)
Went ahead and updated Way of the Spear Traits with the level 20 info Elinnea found - feel free to correct if it seems off. Yay teamwork and research! Sethladan 15:53, 12 July 2012 (EDT)
just reached lvl 20 and after using deft strike the skill and power deed started. so confirmed now. teamwork for the win! Snakerider (talk) 08:46, 20 July 2012 (EDT)