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this page needs to be shortened

  • I agree. Table overload. --Hellis 11:14, 19 March 2007 (PDT)

We still need to keep some of the content there. When will people learn about when they can use armor or musical instruments? Why did i make those damn tables? --Hinney 12:56, 19 March 2007 (PDT)

  • I apologize for removing all your tables. No offense intended. I felt that a page full of tables looked a bit overwhelming and, while the information that was provided is helpful, all that information might be better spread over a few pages which more detailed levels of content. That was my goal though what you see is a work in progress. I had hoped to trim the main levels of skills down and let the user drill down into the skill specific pages. Do you feel that is inappropriate? --Hellis 13:15, 19 March 2007 (PDT)
  • I don't think you were stepping on any toes, just trying a different layout for the data. I agree that we need to trim this page down. But the tables like Armour and Weapon proficiency are actually very nice. True, they present a lot of information, but they do so in an orderly and compact manner. Ideally I'd like to see anything that has a massive list of skills be linked to similar to how the class skills are. And that is my plan for the main Accomplishments page. Just provide links to the pages with the main list for each area. Skeeve 13:24, 19 March 2007 (PDT)
    • There's nothing wrong with tables per se. As you say, they present info in a compact matter. A page with nothing but tables seems like it could be better organized though. Perhaps if the table visual styles were toned down a bit (the colors and size are very "heavy") and allowed to flow around some "verbage" explaining the section they would work better. --Hellis 13:34, 19 March 2007 (PDT)
  • I disagree - strongly! The point of a wiki is to provide information to the user in the most eficent, concise way as possible. Information content is more important than presentation. By forceing people to drill down to several sub pages you:
    • slow people down
    • destroy the synergies that exsist by being able to compare several tables at once —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kccassex (Contribs • User Talk).