Quest Talk:Forth the Toringas: Judgement

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this quest page should be incorporated under the Forth the Toringas quest line. It's vital for the player to complete this or else the whole instance is scrapped. Under my experience, only one NPC went after Frit and that didn't grant an automatic success. The player has to assist in taking down Frit. The confrontation in the heart of the overrun city halts if the player doesn't engage any enemy NPCs, which will only commence once the player returns and enters the aggro area or engages them.
--JaqlinLeFleur (talk) 23:20, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Since Update 13 it has not been possible to complete this quest, it has been bugged with several problems. As far as I know it has not yet been fixed. The first problem was that the Thane went beserk the way Legolas used to do in one of the Epic quests -- simply aggroing every thing around until he died, typically before you even got to the second level and Blackthorn's Messenger.
A second part of the problem was -- you could easily overlook the earlier quests with Blackthorn ( By Bough and Twig, I think) which sets up the quest Quest: Blackthorn's Revenge.
Interestingly, the only time I managed to get to the third tier before getting killed, Frit was taken down by the NPCs. I have not checked it for some time now, as it has not been claimed to be fixed.
Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC - talk 14:51, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Just verified the fact that this quest string is still bugged.
Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC - talk 19:32, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
I haven't gone back to the quest yet, still thinking it was a 'me not being powerful enough to slay them' issue. Sorry if i've made any inconveniences to the pages concerning this quest/instance. but i know for sure that if Frit dies the whole instance is shot. .. i've been able to combat the main baddie on the hill but not to the point of getting the Retreat dialogue. where do we report bugs? would screen record help?--JaqlinLeFleur (talk) 13:28, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Bug reporting techniques

There are basically two mechanics for reporting bugs in LOTRO, which are essentially the same. First is in-game -- either by typing /bug in the chat window which brings up the "Help Menu" or invoking the Help Menu directly -- you can navigate to "Report a bug."

  • This will bring up a form, which is identical to the second mechanic, the form found on the Forums ( at the top pull-down - "Submit a Bug," with two significant differences.
First, when you use the in-game form, it will automatically fill out several fields - your Character Name, Race and Class being the less important. The in-game form also fills in your Server Name AND Location. Your Location can be determined by typing "/loc" in the Chat Window. The information displayed is explicitly meaningful to the developers, and is completely different from the Coordinates found under the "Radar display," or on the main map. When completing the Forum form, cut and past this information from your Chat Window into the reporting form! (The server name is particularly important if you are reporting bugs on Bullroarer, the test server.)
The second difference is the ability to include "screen shots," dumps and the like to augment your bug report. (This is especially useful when reporting "floating objects, one picture is worth a 1000 words and all that...) You can easily do this with the Forum form, but you cannot do this with the in-game form. However, just to make things a bit more confusing, in both cases you will receive an email confirmation statement containing a log number in the subject line. But that confirmation statement does not indicate WHAT the subject of the bug report was -- you have to "log" that on your own. You can reply to this email, retaining the subject line, and include screen shots or dumps, etc.

Note that reporting bugs is different from contacting a Game Master (GM) in-game, or submitting a "Ticket." And just to add confusion on top of confusion -- to contact a GM in-game, you "submit a ticket" -- which is different from "submitting a Ticket" via "" A GM can sometimes help with in-game problems, "stuck" characters, quests that won't complete because the boss is missing, etc. But, remember, they are actually quite limited in what they can help with. is the main support site (and yes, the bug report form actually sits there). Their primary activity involves "account" related problems, and to a lesser extent "unable to login" problems, which frequently become technical. Support also has telephone support, which is necessary if any actual credit-card or similar financial issues are involved.

  • All of that said, does it read reasonably intelligently? As I've been writing this, I'm thinking -- gee we "still" don't have an article on "bug reporting."
Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC - talk 15:03, 28 June 2014 (UTC)