Quest Talk:Chapter 3: Night Deepens

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Map coordinates shift for Epic Battles

After some investigation...

The in-game radar coordinates shift after you click on the Map Table to 68.9N x 47.5W, and are no longer relative to previous maps!

This happens as part of Vol. III. Book 13: Chapter 3: Night Deepens, and one presumes for all Epic Battles.

  • These coordinates may be related to maps for all the Epic Battles as they definitely are for the Helm's Dike Epic Battle. I have not yet verified the others.

There ARE two identical maps in-game -- but with different coordinates!

  • The Map table takes you to "Helm's Deep: After midnight" and the new map -- 68.9N x 47.5W
(This map also appears to be the one used for the various Epic Battles.)
  • Clicking on the Grain Sacks "Helm's Deep Before the Battle" shifts you back to the "original map" -- 63.9S x 89.9W

Sigh... now what to do about this!

I suppose the answer is to create a new map called "Epic Battles" - Starting and ending regions would then become "Epic Battles".
[NW= 72.5N 50.9W] [SE= 66.0W 42.3W]
[SW= 66.0N 50.9W] [NE= 72.5N 42.3W]

This does put the burden on the Editors to use the correct "region" for both Tooltips and quest start/end folk.

It's actually a pretty cool mechanic -- Time shifting -- simply shift all of the Epic Battle activity to another map area. Which easily allows for the massive shifts in populations, etc. which take place. The Doctor would undoubtedly approve.

Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC - talk 03:37, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Argh. Just realized this needs "special coding" to handle the N swap issue.
Wm Magill - Valamar - OTG/OTC - talk 04:07, 17 February 2014 (UTC)