Talk:Settlement

Friendly Camps

We need a unique term for friendly camps that also are settlements. Category:Camps contains any kind of camp, from super-friendly Candaith's Encampment, via neutral or inhabited camps (landmarks or of curious interest), to large, brutal Orc-camps such as Hîsuk.

We need this mainly to be able to categorize friendly camps in Category:Settlements. Of course, "Camp Settlement" would work but it feels awkward. Suggestions? — Zimoon 20:26, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

IMHO, the issue is that all subcategories of Category:Humanoid Geography are subjective. I understand that the type 'Gate' on Adannon is informative for people that do not know the landmark yet, but I wouldn't tie this to a categorization. Category:Settlements is clearly defined and thus is works well for categorization. The word 'settlement' does not depend on whether it is a 'city' or a 'town'.

I would not mind abandoning Category:Camps and the other geography categories. And if we leave it, I wouldn't worry about whether it refers to friendly or evil camps: it purely refers to geography. —RoyalKnight5 (talk) 08:56, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

I do not remember who started with categorization of gates, lakes, hills, camps, dens, etc., and personally I am not so interested in them but I am not against them either. I am wholeheartedly neutral. To be honest there are categories for the most peculiar things on Lotro-Wiki ;-)

Yes, some categorization is subjective as Settlement puts it, "distinguished ... by atmosphere", when explaining the difference between village and outpost. Labelling settlements as city, town, village, outpost, or camp hints about what services to expect, which is valuable. Whether we need categories for them is another question, I simply thought we wanted them. But we can keep display separate from category name. "CAT:Camp Settlements" as name would do fine, and the template can tag pages for that CAT for "type = Camp". — Zimoon 11:44, 5 March 2022 (UTC)