User talk:Magill/Sandbox-5

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Proposed merged page

This is the proposed merged "Guidelines" page ... To be linked from Main page -- Guidelines -- Categorization Guideline

Note: The page has been (re)written as a "final" page rather than a discussion page. Consequently, I've stated things as "fact" rather than "opinion." (Which may be a bit of a stretch in some cases.)

This page started out as a "simple" combining of the two pre-existing "guidelines" pages on "categorization," tagged for merging.

Boy was that a bone-headed idea!!!

I quickly realized that neither page really provided information about the subject, let alone covered "all" the issues involved.

Consequently, this page quickly evolved into a combination of "documenting what exists" and a "How To" for Editors.

Keep in mind this is a "write-as-I-discover/learn-something" work. (i.e. which is even more confused than a stream-of-consciousness writing.)

The document is actually lightly structured and still evolving... into more of an overall "contribution" How To" -- titles welcome.

"Obviously," Comments, Questions, Criticisms, Rewrites are all welcome.

Original Authors and contributors

Help: Categorization

January 2008 Eleazaros
February 2008 Xander
April 2009 Uloria
February 2011 Sethladan

Random thoughts

  • (I suspect that there is some way to determine "HOW" this WIKI is used, but I do not know the tools to do so. "Measurement" is "yet another" topic.)
  • (The internal WIKI search engine may or may not be used... it definitely produces different results than Google, Bing or Yahoo. Search is a whole different kettle of fish, as such, not of interest here.)

Questions

  • are example1 and example 2 (Creating New Articles)
    • A)Accurate
    • B)Current practice
    • C)Desired practice

To-do

  1. Templates section -- Definitely need help to expand this section from someone with a deeper, more thorough understanding of the subject.
  2. Boilerplates section -- Definitely need help to expand this section from someone with a deeper, more thorough understanding of the subject.
    There do appear to be consistency issues between, Templates, Boilerplates and the "create pages," as well as many undocumented Templates.
    Things "to do" I encounter necessary to make the various categorizations consistent:
  3. Eliminate the sub categories of Geography:
    Allowing all of their subcategories to "roll-up" into the main Geography category -- This would eliminate a "layer" without expanding the top level category ridiculously. (It would still be one of the smallest categories.) It would also be consistent with other entries in Geography.
  4. Change/update these sub categories (of the above) to point directly to Geography:
    ---
    ---
  5. Category:Landmarks and Category:Locations are also redundant.
    Landmarks (the smaller -5 pages - 15 subcategories) should be rolled-over into Locations (the larger - 575 pages - 27 subcategories)
Yes, Category:Locations is redundant but now also made "obsolete". Still much to do to empty it but work is progressing just nicely. The time-sinks are to find related quests, to find NPCs that are categorized for a larger area than the smallest possible, to sift through articles bloated with irrelevant links, and to sift through what-links-here (but these days I "disable" the navigation template for a while :P ). The time for that also to also update what I find them with geographical data. But overall progress is steady :)
-- Zimoon 19:03, 4 November 2011 (EDT)
  • Hmmm... I seem to have discovered a bug with the syntax: #<li value="4">. It is inserting an additional 1. line ahead of the correct one.
  • Yeah, looks like a bug, I tweaked it to not use the HTML syntax, format is slightly different but it might work --Lotroadmin (talk) 21:21, 21 June 2011 (EDT)

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