Category talk:Reputation Deeds

Accuracy Stub

About the stub: what is it that is outdated or wrong about it, that needs correcting? Is it that factions need to be added? Or something else? -- Elinnea (talk) 10:06, 23 October 2012 (EDT)

Edit: Ah, no idea either, I mistook reputation deeds with deeds that give reputation

Gwenwyfar (talk) 10:10, 23 October 2012 (EDT)

Heh, and that is exactly why a conversation with Magill led him to put this whole explanation here. Some reputation deeds give reputation as rewards, and others only indicate that you have increased rep level. We were encountering much confusion between the two. It's not an easy thing to clarify. -- Elinnea (talk) 10:25, 23 October 2012 (EDT)

Sorry, I iterated over a list of creatures and never looked at the recent-changes.

Thing is that there is a real "Reputation" tab at the Class/Race&Social/Epic page and that should not be confused with many other deeds for which is used the Reputation-icon. I believe my recent edits of the Deeds page is accurate, look for Filter: at the main categories to pinpoint which such main categories may have deeds which use the "reputation" icon but they are indeed under a completely different category to begin with.

If course, what is "reputation" and what not may be discussed. But what should be in the main Reputation category can not be discussed as that is clear from the Deed Log. Based on icons, yes, then there are many reputation deeds. A question would then be, should we let the icon decide? Or should we let the Deed Log decide? My vote is for the Deed Log. Exactly how to sort these marshes out I have not begun to think of but I added a note at my todo-list that it must be done, most probably involving rework if the deed template (and nobody will complain about that I guess as it is defunct today, almost at least).

The wording can be fixed quite quick. And it is the wording that is confusing. -- Zimoon 13:46, 23 October 2012 (EDT)

Well, there's a third option: categorize based on what is logical to the reader/editor. All of the deed categories are a sort of mish-mash of ones that rigidly follow the in-game deed log, and other ones that were randomly added to various categories because they made sense there. If your plan is to untangle all of those, I salute you as one braver than I. :P

It's not just about icons - functionally it's desirable to have a way to look up deeds that will give reputation reward for a certain faction. That's especially true with some of the higher-level factions that require grinding repeatables to reach Kindred. I think we tossed around some ideas for a more descriptive category name, such as "Reputation Reward Deeds" or something like that. They don't have to go under Category:Reputation Deeds, but as long as those categories go somewhere I'll be happy. -- Elinnea (talk) 14:57, 23 October 2012 (EDT)

I am indeed thinking of attacking that problem, yes :) Based on the Deed Log.

Probably that is better than logic, as we all have different logic ;)

Indeed, but that is not about Deeds but "Deed Rewards" which is a completely different animal and should not be confused with Deeds. Already today we have categories for that, but if those categories are confusing in any way it should be corrected, as you also mention. I guess we should name them not too dissimilar as those for quests giving rep-points, and items. But I have not looked at that aspect at all and need to go buy another note book and pencil :P
-- Zimoon 16:08, 23 October 2012 (EDT)